You Aint Deactivating Me Again Punk Im a Thug for Life

T he morning Young Thug is due to play his commencement headline show in London, another American rapper is making headlines. Tyler, the Creator has been banned from the UK by home secretary Theresa May, apparently considering he "made statements that may foster hatred, which might lead to intercommunity violence in the UK".

Meanwhile, Young Thug was gliding across the border on the Eurostar from Paris, without so much as a pat-downwardly. Whereas Tyler is a geeky rapper who has never been charged with a serious crime in his life, Immature Thug had his home raided in July after he allegedly threatened to kill a mall security guard in Georgia. During the raid, police force establish guns, cocaine and marijuana and he was striking with three counts of felony artillery possession. That all happened on the same twenty-four hours an indictment was issued challenge that Thug, along with his label boss at Cash Coin Records, Birdman, conspired to take Thug's hero and mentor Lil Wayne murdered (a charge he strenuously denies).

All of that might create the picture of a typical gangster-turned-rapper but, in fact, nothing well-nigh Thug (which is apparently what even his closest friends telephone call him) is typical. He is one of the about interesting characters in hip-hop today, seemingly drunk on his ain eccentricity. He doesn't pretend to have left gang life behind – on his outro to a Dej Loaf rails released final year he snarks, "As a matter of fact, I'm ane of the biggest Bloods in fucking America" – just these days he is probably better known for his gender-fluidity, recently photographed in a tutu, a lace floral Gucci top and a leopard-print wearing apparel. Rumours about his sexuality grow, but Thug says he is neither gay nor directly.

You lot might expect this seeming disjunction to influence his music, but his lyrics rarely ponder the realities of his complex existence, instead portraying a bombastic and oftentimes surreal version of his life. His latest mixtape, Slime Season, presents an most sci-fi version of rap excess. He talks virtually his own beauty ("I'm a fuckin' stunna, ass big, Hummer") and outlandish personality ("I'm an earthling in disguise") in a style no other rapper would. His surrealist imagery is compounded past his music videos, which combine hip-hop cliches with Lynchian dream sequences – his recent video for Best Friend features Thug walking in on himself making out with his female alter ego, earlier his ghost sits downwards to a breakfast cereal dinner party.

The plan today is to grab Thug for a few hours before his London debut to go a sense of the man. "It might not be a traditional interview," warns his publicist. I sense she has had a few problems in the past. He missed two photoshoots for a Complex magazine encompass final twelvemonth, eventually showing upwards at the third and answering half dozen questions with two-give-and-take answers: "The quickest interview in history," co-ordinate to the writer. In a Dazed & Confused interview earlier this yr, the writer said: "Each time he speaks more than 5 words, it feels like an astounding souvenir from the universe."

We go to the venue, and I'm told Thug will be at that place in near 30 minutes. I am told this every 30 minutes for the next five hours. Somewhen it'southward agreed that we'll take to wait until after the evidence – which is explosively energetic and musically ramshackle, Thug mostly shouting over the full versions of his own songs, with the vocals yet turned up – and so at around 11.30pm, I am shown into the dressing room.

It'south inappreciably the intimate setting y'all'd desire. He'south joined on the sofa by his new fiance, his sister who is as well his manager and a few other members of his entourage. He's handed a cup of purple medicinal liquid in a polystyrene cup which is known in the hip-hop world every bit "lean", a powerful codeine-based cocktail that is supposed to brand yous lethargic and slurry. I worry he might be monosyllabic, but he seems in a good mood. "This is one of the first tours I did where I wasn't rushing to get home," he says. Does he enjoy it more than playing in the Usa? "Europe is a trillion times tighter than the United states. These shows make me stop smoking. You can't fucking play. Yous gotta end, you can't do drugs, I've been slacking drugs," he says, lean however in hand.

Young Thug performs at Boston's House of Blues.
Young Thug performs at Boston'south Firm of Blues. Photograph: Henrique Plantikow for the Guardian

I of the things I'm surprised well-nigh, I tell him, is how relaxed he always seems. Despite his piece of work rate – since 2011, he has released 12 full-length mixtapes, equally well equally working on his debut album, Hy!£UN35 (yes, that really is its title), to be released later this year. He tells me he makes "at to the lowest degree five to 10 songs a calendar week". At the same time, he's touring, getting married, getting arrested – yet he never seems edgy. Is there nothing that plays on his mind? What'south the showtime thing he thinks about when he wakes up in the morning?

"Whatever I think of, that'southward what I exercise. I wake upward and call back, 'I want to buy a car', I purchase a car. I wake upwardly and be like, 'I merely want to lay in bed with my girl', I practise that. I wake up and desire to rap, I rap. So whatever I think of. But really, I exist on the money." He turns to me. "Nosotros need money. We need hits. Hits bring coin, money bring power, ability bring fame, fame change the game. You know what I'm saying?"

"You're saying that you lot're a very impulsive person."

"Impulsive? Are yous kidding," interrupts his fiancee. "He'll be like: 'Meet me at the car lot.' I say: 'What car lot? Information technology'south 7am!' and he'll say: 'I'm at the BMW auto lot.' I don't fifty-fifty know where information technology is or how he got there. Or he'll be like: 'Let'south go to Paris tomorrow. Go along, make it happen,' and then hang upwards. He won't even expect for a response. So so we're going to Paris. He's super spontaneous."

It's only recently that Thug has had the wealth and freedom to alive a life of impetuosity. One of eleven children, he spent much of his adolescence in juvenile detention, after breaking his centre-school teacher'south arm. When he left the programme, he started recording, mostly in a wardrobe in a friend'south bedroom. In 2011, he began releasing his outset mixtape series, I Came From Nothing. You start to get a sense of Immature Thug on those early tapes – his sing-song mode, his cartoonish imagery ("I'll swallow your donkey up – then burp"). But information technology's a long style from the Thug of today.

"I didn't used to practise shows because I used to be then shy. We'd perform and I'd be at the back, thinking of another song. I was and then shy, I own't never getting in front end of the photographic camera, I would never get on stage. I was too shy, boy."

What changed?

He sniggers. "The backing."

I wonder if that's just the easy response, or whether in that location'due south more than coin that motivates him. Thug thinks about that. "I don't ever desire to be like a peasant. I want to e'er be all right. Simply motivation is fans – not your kids, your mum, none of that. All of that matters, but number one is your fans. To me, it's more most music – so I don't really care about that. I could live in a condo." He stops and so cricks his head. "It's gotta be a squeamish condo though."

When he was still unsigned, he gave an interview to a small-scale YouTube channel in which he said he believed he would 1 twenty-four hour period sign to Greenbacks Coin and piece of work with Lil Wayne. A few years afterwards, both Lil Wayne and Gucci Mane, another of Thug'southward heroes, tried to claim him as a protege, with Gucci signing him to his record label and Wayne acting as a mentor. But it was the support of Birdman, the owner of Cash Money and one of the nearly powerful people in hip-hop, that has led many to believe Thug is being anointed every bit the genre's next huge star. When Birdman included Immature Thug in his Rich Gang supergroup, it seemed as though he was creating a sequel to Lil Wayne's Young Money characterization, which launched Nicki Minaj and Drake.

What happened next is complicated. The short version is that Lil Wayne'south relationship with Birdman deteriorated while Thug's relationship with Birdman became stronger than always. Thug still admired Wayne and wanted to name his mixtape Tha Carter V, in tribute to his hero'south most famous serial of albums. Wayne wouldn't permit information technology, and then the proper noun was changed to Barter 6 (because Bloods put the letter "B" in front of words beginning with C). That seemed similar the end of the human relationship with his idol.

And then, in July, both Young Thug and Birdman were named by Georgia prosecutors in a case against Thug'southward tour manager, Jimmy "Peewee" Winfrey, who was charged with a shooting at Wayne's bout bus in April. In the indictment, information technology said that Winfrey had called Thug before the shooting and Birdman after, too challenge Thug had threatened Wayne in his music and videos.

Young Thug and Cash Money label boss, Birdman in New York.
Young Thug and Greenbacks Money label boss, Birdman in New York. Photograph: Bennett Raglin/BET/Getty Images

Hours earlier I arrive for the interview, I received an email from Thug's publicist telling me to refrain from asking almost "Lil Wayne, Birdman or any ongoing legal cases," and this was a condition for the interview taking place. So instead, we talk generally almost the role of mentors in Thug's career. What did it mean to accept Gucci Mane and Birdman nowadays him equally their prodigy?

"It comes with growth. Sometimes people grow too fast when they sell, they won't expect at it as what it is. I ever look at information technology every bit what it is. Information technology don't matter how big you is – motherfucker, this is Birdman, he has half a billion dollars. He call, you need to answer the phone. It's like, I'm simply man. If Gucci calling your phone – the human's a fucking fable – why won't you lot answer your telephone? How could you ever call back you're bigger than him?"

Whatsoever the realities of these fractured relationships, in the space of such a short fourth dimension, he's gone from the mentee to the posterboy, his global distinction threatening to eclipse his heroes. Beyond the Atlanta hip-hop scene, he'due south appeared on order bangers such every bit Juicy J and Nicki Minaj's Low, and even Jamie xx'south In Color album, where Thug's sing-song rap style is put to spectacular apply on the dancehall-inflected I Know There'southward Gonna Be (Adept Times). Kanye told Thug he'south "like Bob Marley" and is desperate to make an album with the younger rapper. Does he fifty-fifty recognise the connection between his erstwhile career and his new one?

"I mean, nosotros notwithstanding do information technology the same way, merely it's less gangster, you know what I'm saying? More white motherfuckers and important motherfuckers. There's less gangsters, less drugs. I have a girlfriend now, so no girls. I think all of those things brand me more of an artist, though. If I didn't have a girlfriend, I'd accept 10 girls at the studio and they would make me not rap. I'd be chilling and getting stoned. It'southward similar, boom! – I've got a girlfriend. Information technology turned out to be a good thing because it made me a rapper."

As his career has become more professional, so his style has become more wild. In his start Tv set functioning, he wore brownish leather trousers with a pinkish flag flying out the back, an effeminate take on his gang roots. Since then, his dressing-up box has get more and more varied, and during New York Fashion week in September, he starred in a Vogue video alongside a string of supermodels who danced to Good Times. It'southward become a huge talking point, and he's been subjected to homophobic comments on social media.

"I like everything that people say," he insists. "No affair what they say. Y'all gay, yous a punk. Yous got a nice girlfriend, you lot're ugly, you can't rap, you lot're the hardest." Is it important that hip-hop has looks other than the hyper-masculine stereotype? His manager jumps in: "That's why you like him in Europe. That's how yous apparel. If he was some masculine guy, I'm non proverb they wouldn't like him, but he's more relatable. To people who simply like former hip-hop."

"Yeah," agrees Thug, "Because you're from Atlanta, Georgia, and you're dressed like a fucking European. Of class."

It's interesting to hear what the big egos of hip-hop say when they're asked to talk about themselves. Drake is all charm and schmoozing, deflecting questions abroad with a gag whenever he tin. Kanye overheats with his efforts to push button the envelope. But Thug seems unable to restrict himself with a gameplan: his music and image thrive on impulsivity. So you're never going to go a sober assay of his ain place in the world – how could he tell you what the futurity holds when tomorrow he could sack everything off and become to Paris?

Instead, the all-time y'all're going to become is a quick glimpse of the mania every bit information technology happens. There is a sense in which Immature Thug's main line of business is to derange expectations effectually rap, sexuality, criminality and fine art. If that'due south his business organization, and then he has go an impresario, using his music and wealth to push the limits of what a rapper tin can exist. Later all: hits bring coin, money bring power, power bring fame, fame alter the game.

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Source: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/oct/08/young-thug-hits-bring-money-lil-wayne

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